Our latest and improved fully motor protected upgrade!!!
Sur Ron “Enduro” ASI BAC8000 (60v/72v) Controller + Display + 72v Battery 42Ah + Mounting Brackets
Higher Volts, Higher Amps Higher RPM+ Higher Speed !
This is truly plug n play and expect RELIABLE speeds of around 70+ MPH
All taxes and import duties paid and free UK shipping
Sorry no international shipping
Now with stainless steel black powder coated mounts (only we include these)
Power sets from Super 4500W to Extreme 13500
Works on STD SR Battery (60V , Bypass Mod (60v) but tuned for our 72v aftermarket battrey.
NO PROGRAMMING NEEDED!!
In Stock, Now shipping within 3 working days
We lstened to our customers and improved and change things as this product evolved. We originally started this project 18 months ago. Thats 18 months of learning and evolving just on this one device. We truly belive this is the very best Sur Ron battery and controler upgrade on the market. we KNOW that other sellers have copied our program (these say to be copied is the greatest compliment), but now that we have pushed the boat even furthur. Our latest program has now been revised to include MORE power! Improved thermal roll back for motor protection, no problems with up hill starts or roll backwards stalls, no cutting out, extra water proofing, higher grade materials used. Stainless steel metal work and extra added powerder coating (you scatch it, it stil wont rust!!).
The acceleration is phenominal, truly FxxxxxG AWSOME! Remember when your bying this kit, It was only us and one other busines (ERT) that created this product for the Sur Ron. Others have copied, but NO ONE can compete against the qulity of these kits.
This controller can take battery swaps ranging from the standard untouched Sur Ron battery, including a “Bypassed” Sur Ron battery but is “Tuned” for our aftermarket battery @ 72v (max 85V). This is predominatly a 72v Kit and not “tuned” for a std battery. It carrie around twic ethe mount of energy of a standard battery, so lods more range!! (speed and acceration kills range, so when comparing to a std bike, you need to ride like for like)
The controller now features a full working display showing: speed, power, battery charge, date and trip. Set with 5 power levels as default that can be flicked at the touch of a button on the fly (just your thumb, no gloves off or stopping), Can be used like a gearbox to slip up and down the power levels (5 levels set as our default) to suite your terrain and riding style. (9 power levels available by simple settings in display for even greater refinement)
The controller comes fully potted and with all leads and looms fitted and waterproofed. The mounts are in place, stainless steel and powder coated in black.
Power Level #1 60V standard Sur Ron Battery (All batteries) Gives approximately double the range of a std bike
Power Level #1-2-3 60V Sur Ron Bypassed battery and 72v battery
Power levels #4-5, Only our 72v battery (third party 72 batteries are not supported by us and may be damaged by this set up)
Please note that running on full power for your type of battery, non stop with a wide open throttle is not a good idea and effectively red lining the motor like on a petrol bike. We strongly recomend that you upgrade to our hevay duty bash gurad to increase ari flow over the motor, make your frame stiffer and take heavier knocks. Increased air flow over the motor (cooling) will increase reliabilty and stop thermal roll back kicking in so quick (where poer is reduced tempraliy to help the motor). However if you do ride very very hard and get close to overheating the motor, Our new imporved thermal roll back will gently cut the power until the motor cools enough to accept full power agin. This only tends to happen if yor riding full open throttle down a very long straight (like the M1 motoway).
Unleash more performance and range with correct gearing. Higher gears (Smaller rear sprocket) does not mean higher top speed. Over labouring the motor with the wrong gearing costs top speed, acceleration and range.
A fast efficient spinning electric motor goes better – simple!.
Our recommendations for a fully equipped 72v system:
For road use: 10-14 stone rider 52T. 15-17 stone rider 54T. 18+ stone rider plus: 56T
For Off Road/Off Road: 10-14 stone rider 54T. 15-17 stone rider 56T. 18+ stone rider plus: 58T
Pure Off-road/MX Race: 10-14 stone rider 56T. 15-17 stone rider 58T. 18+ stone rider plus: 60T
Controller Feature Set
- FOC (Field Oriented Control)
- improved torque throughout the rev range
- Higher RPM compared to the stock controller on 52V and especially on 72V
- Silky smooth throttle control and responsiveness, like a fine adjustable knob on a light switch.
- Improved efficiency due to FOC algorithm, premium internal components within the controller (like the mosfets) which increases efficiency while reducing heat losses
- Mounting Kit
- Install Instructions
- Both the ASI BAC4000 and ASI BAC8000 use almost the same programming. The ASI BAC4000 under exceptional hot day and extreme hard use may throttle back and restricted to 431 Pahse Amps. the ASI BAC800 is capable of 850A. The ASI BAC8000 designed for much bigger motors, will not throttle back and will never be stressed.
Others copy, se we improve and change. The old APT display (as used by everyone else) had a tendancy to steam up on a hot day if the bike had been washed with a hose or exposed very heavy rain, So guess what? we went to another display manufacturer and had another display devolped just for us. We are the only Sur Ron kit that now uses our dedicacted display. Its got our programing and logo on it, so lets see ow long before we are copied again (PS, its really good to use)!
There is no actual need to to reset the display between voltages. However the battery status will show incorrectly if you do not. This is a simple few button press in the settings.
The important factor to remember are:
72V battery: full at 83V-84v and empty at 60v. If you have a battery with no BMS discharge monitoring (only used to balance charge), you must stop riding your bike at 59V/60V as going below could damage your battery. With the Electron Cycles 72v battery this is not and issue as the BMS will protect the battery and cut your motor before damage to battery occurs.
On a Sur Ron “Bypassed” Battery. The battery if full at 67V and dead at 48v, However you will not be able to charge your battery if you go below 54V. This does not harm the battery but you will need to buy or “Recovery Charger” if you want to get around 30% more range than a std SR battery: https://www.electroncycles.co.uk/product/sur-ron-recovery-charger-for-bypass-mod-flat-battery/
On a Sur Ron standard Battery. The battery if full at 67V and empty at 54v, The BMS in battery will stop your battery from drainingg too far. In reality there is very little gain on running a STD SR battery with this controller.
For a real show of power, take a look at this customer set up here on Youtube (we do not endorse road riding and this set up should be used on off road in accordance with legislation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCP2VqwQyHU
Battery 72v 42Ah Molicel P42A 21700 cell 3024wH – (58% bigger capacity than a 60V std battery, but due to a better voltage cut off is near 100% more range if used at the same power)
Designed to run the ASI BAC 4000 or 8000 and Nuclear controllers (any 72v capable controller) up to 330 Amps and use on the Sur Ron Light Bee.
This will not work with the original X Controller.
These power packs are designed for ultimate power supply and are 58% bigger watts hours (3020) compared to the std battery (1920Wh althugh only allows 1000Wh to be used becasue of vbery high LVC) and able to give out almost 4 times the power (discharge -amps)
High Power Sur Ron Battery 20S1 P 72v 3020Wh 42Ah Molicell p42A high power 4200 mAh per cell). ANT bluetooth BMS (works on IOS and Android) designed to fit inside the Sur Ron battery compartment utilizing the existing battery tray. The Cells are genuine branded cells specifically designed for high output discharge and sustained high drain. Other inferior cells used in cheaper packs simply can’t deliver like these. If you think the cost is high, these batteries have 208 cells that retail in the UK for around £6 each! not including: BMS, fabrication and shipping taxes.
The whole battery is fitted in hand made stainless steel case designed to handle those inevitable and hopefully not painful “Offs” with hard off road rides and giving masses more protection.
Please ALSO note, these are genuine new cells and made up into complete battery specially designed by us, built at the factory or here in the UK by our dedicated battery builders. We simply can’t buy a single battery, Thanks to Paypal fees, shipping and taxes the markup is minimal!
Charging: First time charging is important. Always connect the charger to the battery with the charger powered up from the mains. This will stop a “Connection Spark”. The battery needs a “Balance Charge” on first charge. Please charge for 12 hours first time.
Please note, charger is not supplied but can be found here:+https://www.electroncycles.co.uk/product-category/batteries/
* 6 Month Warranty is for manufacturing defaults and does not cover miss use or accidental damage. These units are extremely strong and robust and will not let you down unless abused. We undertake warranties here in the UK. We take the pain!
Please note, Lithium batteries are considered hazardous and due care and attention should be taken. Although these cells are in wide use, and professionally manufactured in a purpose built factory; because of the power of the battery, we strongly recommend that precautions are taken. We do not recommend charging inside the family home and charging should be supervised. We take no responsibility for misuse. These batteries are thoroughly tested (full discharge and charge cycles at the manufacturing stage and also pre-delivery). These are not DIY or amateur built devices.
Fitting Services (highly recommended)
We now offer a fitting service in different location around the county.
Each location has different working patterns.
Generally the bike will need to be dropped of at prior arrangement and collect one working week later. but must include a full weekend in between.
Price £229 through the website of £200 direct to fitter and not included with the original controller purchase.
Current fitting locations are:
North Devon (Barnstaple)
North Wales (Holywell)
Leeds (Otley LS21)
South Coast (Portsmouth)
We will include a 13 page illustrated set of instructions. However we do strongly advise for one of our fitters to install. We do make the assumption that if your fitting this kit yourself, you know what you are doing. All kit leaves here tested and working. Think of it like this. You buy a motor from Honda, Suzuki etc and fit yourself. You would not expect Honda to talk you through the fitting. We will not give support outside of Monday – Friday normal business hours.
This is a plug and play system, but we now believe there are at least three slightly different version of the Sur Ron Lightbee motor. This can cause some minor issues. Because of this we now include 1 hour free remote support during our working hours (9 – 5.30 Mon-Friday). We strongly advise that you factor in our working hours when fitting. We will not give support outside these hours. To give remote support you will need either an media phone/note pad and good internet connection.
We do not warranty damage caused from your fitting. Every kit is bench tested before leaving our premises.
We give UK support!!!!
* UK Warranty
Our warranty is limited to 6 months from time of purchase. Due to the use and the nature of this device (Off-Road) and the potential excess exposure to: water, rain, mud and the possibility to sustained high powered use/abuse, we do not warranty controllers that show signs of damage, excess heat or water penetration. The controllers are full bench tested working with a full working motor before leaving our premises. Any damage caused by your installation is not covered by our warranty. We highly recommend the use of one of recognized fitters where installation is fully covered.
Warranties are not transferable.
We reserve the right to slightly modify or change this product without notice.
Buyer releases Electron Cycles or any person trading on or behalf of the business known as Electron Cycles from any liabilities, therein known as Electron Cycles (expressed or implied, arising by law or otherwise) that may occur from the use of products sold by Electron Cycles and purchased by Buyer. These products are being sold for “Off Road/Competition Use” only and may be used only on two wheel vehicles (bicycles, electric bicycles, two wheel electric powered vehicles) used solely for “Off Road/Competition” (off-road being defined as a private land with land owners permission and not public highway or byway). The Buyer also recognises that Lithium batteries are classed as hazardous and should not be: stored, used, charged in place, facility any area that is not fire proof or safe to do so. That batteries should not be taken into the family home, office, workplace or school place. No other applications are intended or implied. The Buyer of product sold or provided by Electron Cycles acknowledges and agrees that Seller disclaims any warranty and expressly disclaims any liability for personal injury or damages or any damages to vehicle, expensed occurred, personal property or third persons. Electron Cycles will uphold the warranty of the manufacture of the product sold for a period of six months from date of purchase from manufacturer defect. In the event a manufacturer’s warranty exists, it is agreed and stated that Under no circumstances shall the seller or manufacture be liable for any labour charged or travel time incurred in diagnosis for defects, removal, or reinstallation of this product, or any contingent expenses.